Curse

AuraofMana · Nov 30, 2007, 12:27 AM // 00:27

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Calling folks stupid for disagreeing with you will surely make everyone respect your opinion and rally your cause to Gaile Grey

I really don't care. Even if this is implemented I won't even bother going for the titles. I am just here because it is fun to flame... errr... I MEAN ARGUE, YEAH ARGUE. NO, DEBATE, that's it, debate.

Plus, Anet repairing a title that would force other people to remake character and thus spending more time (AKA holding them out longer until GW2)? Fat chance.

mrmango · Nov 30, 2007, 12:29 AM // 00:29

I love this theological debate. Both sides have great ideas. I personally don't care.

StelardActek · Nov 30, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

I honestly can't see them changing it either, but it's fun to argue. < ^.^ >

LuckyStripe · Nov 30, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41

I say /singed.

Me n the other people who had bought FoW armor but died allready really missed out.

Is remaking a character that has FoW for the survivor title really worth it to the average player?

wetsparks · Nov 30, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03

average players have fow armor?

Nornagest · Nov 30, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

/signed

I really like the idea of getting LS for my ranger.

MithranArkanere · Nov 30, 2007, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Everything has been already said.

The way this title work do not fit GW style, so it should be repaired, like they changed the attribute system to be able to change them anytime, instead of having to earn points, this title should be changed to be tried anytime, by resetting to 0 if you fail to achieve it.

wetsparks · Nov 30, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

id like a virtual reset, i am kind of proud on all the deaths my warrior has accumulated.

Seraphic Divinity · Nov 30, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52

No, make it 1 billion XP, all your skills are reset, all your attribute points lost, all your armor forsaken and I may reconsider my first word.

AuraofMana · Nov 30, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Fine, you give me 10 mil GW gold and I'll consider switching my opinions too.
Massive stacks of Ectos worth 10 mil gold works fine too.

MithranArkanere · Nov 30, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

In Europe 1 billion is 1.000.000.000.000.
In USA it is 1.000.000.000

I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone having any of those amounts.

- The 'Skills' thing is removed by tomes. You can make a Survivor character just with the precise skills you need thanks to them, regardless o trainers available, including elites. That makes around 17gold... no, much less, thanks to lesser prices of newly adquired skills (that you will have if they are already unlocked). So let's say 13k.
- Attribute points? They are cheap to regain, and they are dependable on leveling and quests. You can't make those quests repeatable, and recovering the rest is just easy. Let's say you get those 30 extra again automatically after hitting level 20.
- Armor? How much is that? 25k including all runes, even a +50HP rune?

So... it's all summed up in starting from Level 1 and and losing the 30 extra points until level 20, and paying around 40k?
Let's make it 50k.

Ok, that condition is fair.

What is not fair is making impossible a title just after its addition, when it is not account-wide.

StelardActek · Dec 01, 2007, 01:39 PM // 13:39

I must say I'm tempted to try and contact ArenaNet somehow, point them at this thread and ask 'Is it possible you'll ever do this or, failing that, some theoretical other idea with the same eventual outcome?' If we got a definitive answer, something along the lines of 'yes', 'no', or 'if a good enough idea is suggested'. Obviously one of the first two would be best because then we could stop arguing about it and wait.

Also, MithranArkanere, I agree that 50p sounds a reasonable amount to charge for whatever kind of reset. In case anyone's forgotten, I'm in favour of just resetting the count of XP towards the title and keeping the death count. :P

d0m3l · Dec 01, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20

/singed

would love a possibility of earning LS

Riplox · Dec 01, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I think this is a great idea, and others who said it goes against the rest of GW is right. There needs to be an option for preexisting characters to attain this title. And such, the suggestion of the progress reset is a totally viable option. How I see this working is as follows:

If at any time before you reach LS, the survivor title counter resets to 0 and you lose whatever survivor title you had. The rest of the title details remain the same (xp required, what type of deaths count, which do not, etc.).

StelardActek · Dec 01, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Originally Posted by Riplox

If at any time before you reach LS, the survivor title counter resets to 0 and you lose whatever survivor title you had. The rest of the title details remain the same (xp required, what type of deaths count, which do not, etc.).

While I'm glad you like this idea, I see a few issues with the method you suggest. Firstly, it'll piss off people who merely want the first level. I'm sure there are some out there, and there's no reason to rob them of their bragging right. Getting the first title is still impressive and I can understand them not wanting to grind to full LS.

Secondly, this negates the gold cost incurred by rolling a new character under the current system. Not sure if that's a huge issue in itself, but it seems to be a point of contention with the 'you should start from level 1' crowd. That's why I think talking to an NPC and paying 50p or so sounds fair.

That said, I like your idea. It could work.

You can't see me · Dec 01, 2007, 11:48 PM // 23:48

This would mean that they would have to give people another chance at LDoA. I don't want to remake my only prophecies character just because I didn't know enough back then.

Same with Survivor.

/Not Signed.

MithranArkanere · Dec 02, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

No. That would mean that people tha leave preSearing would lose LDoA. But that's for another thread.

StelardActek · Dec 02, 2007, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

No. That would mean that people tha leave preSearing would lose LDoA. But that's for another thread.

You mean before getting the title, right?

Ascalon Runner · Dec 02, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Giving characters that died another shot at the Survivor title would be a slap in the face to each and every player who skinned their knuckles earning the title.Having the Survivor title shows to the world that you have a reliable Internet connection and are unlikely to lag out on your party members during a critical mission (such as a GvG match).If you're so eager to earn a maxed out title, do yourself a favor and purchase Prophecies so that you can earn the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title instead. You'll have a maxed out title that can be applied towards the Kind Of A Big Deal title track and much less anxiety (until you get your electric bill).Prophecies is the cheapest of the PvE campaigns plus you get a few maxed out weapons by typing "/bonus".I have quiet a few characters on my main account that were created before titles were added to Guild Wars myself.I'm willing to accept that I can't get every title in the game and so should you.

MithranArkanere · Dec 02, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

We have already discarded the 'Survivor is hard'.
It's even easier with a Mesmer/Dervish with Illusion of Weakness and that other enchantment that heals when HP is low. Then go to Cantha and... well, it's all in the thread.